Here is a video on the progress of the election integrity bills in the legislature.
Here is a related video that shows how much the leadership wanted to control the process.
Here is a video on the progress of the election integrity bills in the legislature.
Here is a related video that shows how much the leadership wanted to control the process.
The SC legislature is in a dog fight over election integrity bills. The House and senate unanimously passed an election reform bill. There were some changes made in the senate that created major controversy.
The senate added what our GOP chairman is calling a poison pill to the current bill— He doesn’t want our senate having “advice and consent” over the appointment of our election commission. The bill made it back to the house where the lame duck speaker where without debate, motions or a vote was sent to the judiciary where it will likely die.
He pretended to have someone table the bill (this person never made the motion) and send it to the judiciary committee as well as pass the motion although there was NO VOTE! The house reps were shocked to say the least. Our representative form of government apparently doesn’t matter nor does the will of the people.
Here is the video. Go to https://www.scstatehouse.gov/video/archives.php and Tuesday April, 26th, 2022 at 12 PM and go to the timestamp 1:37:58 to 1:39:19.
Our GOP leader Drew McKissick is trying to keep absolute power with the governor and has been stating that “We got all we wanted” regarding the election bill. This shocking video (see below) of him harassing a citizen that is just asking him questions and him swatting her phone away was concerning.
Is the GOP leadership trying to thwart election reform as well as the will of the people?
We think so. On a state as well as national level.
EMERGENCY!!! CALL TO ACTION: Call your house legislator now or election integrity dies
Make it to the State House tomorrow to put pressure on the speaker!
Today our SC Safe Elections group drafted a summary document that House representative Josiah Magnuson delivered to all of the house reps. Numerous election integrity advocates in the house had made great headway in encouraging their fellow members to vote for bill 4919 “as is” with no changes from what the senate had revised.
Given that momentum, House speaker Jay Lucas pulled a fast one and stated that there was a motion by house Rep Pope to send the bill to the judiciary committee though Mr. Pope apparently had not done that and Lucas said the “Aye’s have it” (although there was NO VOTE).
Here is the video. Go to https://www.scstatehouse.gov/video/archives.php and Tuesday April, 26th, 2022 at 12 PM and go to the timestamp 1:37:58 to 1:39:19.
Our House reps were shocked to say the least at this despicable and unethical power play.
Mr. Lucas then made the unilateral decision to send the bill to the judiciary committee where it will die unless there is a motion to reconsider TOMORROW.
This is a sad display of absolute power in our legislature that cannot go unnoticed or unchecked. This appears to be an orchestrated effort to thwart election reform as well as the will of the people of South Carolina; and unfortunately, this is occurring across the nation.
Let’s inundate our house representatives’ phones and show up tomorrow at the state house at 10 AM in in the House chamber. The gallery and balcony are open! Let’s stare the speaker down and encourage our house members to reverse these unethical actions of the speaker so this bill can move forward.
Let’s make history.
Thanks so much to Rep Magnuson and our other election integrity advocates in the House.
Please pass bill 4919 without amendments
These are the reasons SC Safe Elections would like to see this bill passed as is.
First regarding the poison pill, this is a good thing as it provides more scrutiny of a commission which currently has little accountability or oversight. It also prevents partisan overreach and promotes neutrality.
Furthermore, there were some meaningful reforms that help enhance election integrity:
For more specifics on our view of the good and bad of this bill see this link.
This is a great start and we would like to see this bill pass.
Dear Speaker Lucas:
Thank you for your service to our state. You’ve served as our SC House Speaker since 2014…and now you are leaving. Before you go…
We, the citizens of SC need you. We have never needed your leadership more than right now. Now is the time…Now is your moment…Now is the time for you to cement your LEGACY…how do you want to be remembered?
Will you be remembered as the man who enabled our state legislators to fulfill their Constitutional duty to determine the election laws in our state? OR…Will you be remembered as the man who single-handedly killed an election reform bill that was passed by your colleagues 114 – 0 and in the Senate 43 – 0? You have a DUTY to bring 4919 to a vote. Let your statehouse colleagues decide.
The most sacred right of a citizen is the right to vote
Protect this right to vote. You will be a HERO.
Cave to political pressures. You’ll be remembered as a ZERO.
Your decision will be the lasting signature of your service.
All those years. Culminating in this one moment. How do you want to be remembered? CHOOSE WISELY.
THIS IS NOT A POWER GAME…it’s the FUTURE OF OUR REPUBLIC.
We, the citizens of South Carolina, are watching.
Here’s to being the HERO,
Leslie Thorne, Legislative liaison SC Safe Elections
Last week the senate surprised everyone in South Carolina by adding amendments to the election integrity bills that the GOP “guaranteed” would be signed and passed.
The Senate combined bills 4919 and 3444 which was a good thing. They also added some surprises that were not welcome by the GOP leadership and the House. The main issue in their opinion was a so-called “poison pill.” The language that was objectionable was the ability of the Senate to provide advice and consent to the state election commission members, currently now solely appointed by the governor:
“State Election Commission composed of five members, to be appointed by the Governor, upon the advice and consent of the Senate”
In our opinion, this is a good thing as it provides more scrutiny of the nominees for a group that currently has very little accountability. We think that Senator Massey did a great job of debating this in the session during deliberation and encourage everyone to listen to the link. It starts about 4 hours and 46 minutes in. This is a safeguard against partisan control of this entity.
Overall, some of the changes were good, some bad, and we don’t think the bill goes far enough to provide true election reform—a good method to clean and maintain the voter rolls, removing electronic poll books and machines, and transparency in the reporting of results.
The Good
The Bad
As it stands, given the overall good enhancements and amendments the last senate version is a huge improvement over the house version. While this is a far cry from substantive reform it has many things to celebrate. Unfortunately, a big issue is the 2-week early voting period.
This is a great start and we would like to see this bill pass. Ideally, in the next session we can build on this momentum to get it “totally right” in South Carolina and adopt measures that really make a difference by enhancing accountability, eliminating the cost and complexity and potential for fraud with the current election management system (ideally move to paper poll books and ballots), totally revamping the voter registration and maintenance program and making the entire process more transparent.
Citizens would be shocked to know that our entire system is controlled by out of state entities for the most part. We don’t have any ability to see how our vote is being counted and reporting is done by a foreign entity. Our own state doesn’t have access to the source codes for the machines. Is this even constitutional? According to our state constitution our votes should be cast in secret but NOT COUNTED IN SECRET. This is currently not the case. We have outsourced this responsibility to corporations and machine manufacturers.
Let’s bring the vote back to the people and instill more confidence in our elections. Great job, Senate!
Bill 3444 prohibits drop boxes which is a good thing. However, there is no procedure for drop boxes in the current Code of Laws for SC. They are already illegal, which is why counties that contested the boxes in 2020 were successful and were limited to locations at the county board of election offices.
Section 7-5-50 of the bill states that “no county board of voter registration and elections may accept or expend any funds other than public funds to prepare for or to conduct elections.” No outside involvement by for profit or nonprofit corporations should be involved in our state elections. The county board of elections as well as the State Election Commission should not be allowed access to any outside funding.
Bill 3444 is problematic in that it centralizes more control at the state level. which leaves our state elections more vulnerable to partisan control. (NOTE: the Governor appoints ALL members of the SEC…with the caveat that one appointee needs to be a member of the majority party in the General Assembly and the other from the minority party…otherwise the Governor picks whoever he wants – and he also appoints the Chairman of the SEC. These officials who run our elections are NOT elected.) Decentralization is important here because it mitigates the dangers of centralized control, allowing counties to make decision that best reflect their constituencies. In other words, with this bill’s passage, counties would no longer be able to make the decision to dump the machines! In the same vein, this bill ABOLISHES the municipal election commissions, a further effort to centralize control upwards.
A fundamental conservative tenet is that decentralization is more optimal in that it tends to foster innovation. Centralization of the functions of government only allows for more concentrated control and power which gives the people less confidence in their election system. This is the main tenet of why the democrats are pushing H.R. 1. They want total control of elections under the guise of enhanced quality control. To that point, our own election commission should not be responsible for auditing themselves. Perhaps this role should be relegated to the Secretary of State.
There are some hidden aspects of this bill which are also problematic. Why should the Speaker of the House and Senate President be able to intervene in any federal or state legal case involving an election law…or the way an election is carried out?
Bill 4919 says that it limits reasons for absentee voting but it extends in person voting to 2 weeks (in person voting to be one day and was only expanded last year due to COVID). It also doesn’t substantially limit the categories of who can request mail-in absentee ballots. As of this writing, they include: members of the American Red Cross, armed forces, government workers, students (as well as their spouses and dependents) and people age 65 and older, among others. Does this seem like a restriction in absentee ballots? The only limit appears to be people who are on vacation and absent on election day. Absentee ballots are a huge source of potential malfeasance and should be limited only to people or active military out of the country or the severely ill or disabled.
This bill also requires witness signatures and the last digits of the voter’s SS# but most likely due to time constraints these ballots are checked very quickly or not at all.
Overall, the election reform bills (4919 and 3444) (are moving in the wrong direction. I hope that the senate can bring themselves to amend them substantially or stick with our current system and enforce the laws on the books. We need to move forward, not backward. If our governor and legislature was serious about election reform these bills would reinstate ONE day of voting, severely limit reasons for absentee balloting, get rid of the machines and go to paper ballots as well as have enhanced voter roll maintenance procedures, including the elimination of our reliance on ERIC (Electronic Registration Information Center). .
Here are some videos from our event that have been clipped from our main presentation. Enjoy. Here is also a link to our Rumble channel.
Below are some videos from our reveal.
The Cast Vote Record is a great way to determine how the ratio of votes between candidates trends in real time. Draza Smith has done some compelling analysis on these records to show some irregularities that are concerning. Our state of SC has blocked citizens from acquiring these records due to an opinion letter from the AG’s office prior to the 2020 election. The opinion states a concern that “individual voters’ cast ballots could be identified in violation of Article II, § 1, if cast ballots are subject to public inspection.” They also state that it would “fail to protect the secrecy of every vote cast.”
This argument is spurious however and suggests that they don’t understand the format of this common report. The request seems to assume that the public would be privy to the actual scanned image of the ballot which is not what the standard Cast Vote Record provides. We have samples of the report headers and in no way does it provide any Personally Identifiable Information.
In order for our elections to be transparent and honest it is essential that we the people have access to key data points. The Cast Vote Record is a way for us to see trends in tabulation that may look awry as Draza Smith has demonstrated. It does not in any way encroach on the secrecy of any voter.
It is essential that we have more information not less if we are going to trust our election process and our election commission should be willing to work with us to ensure that confidence is instilled in the process.
We the People would like to monitor our elections to ensure that they are safe, transparent and honest. In order to do so, it is important to get the voter roll data pre and post election. The South Carolina Election Commission charges $2500 a pop for the rolls but if you compare that number to what other states are paying it seems exorbitant.
In fact, 41 states charge less than $2500. Eleven states charge no fee for access and 20 charge a fee of $500 or less.
Our state needs to reconsider the cost of election transparency.