Last Minute Call to the Statehouse

By Lucy Twinkle

It’s Tuesday at 1:15 pm and I have just learned that the House Subcommittee on Business Commerce & Administration will be having a hearing at 4 pm on the regulations put forth by the State Election Commission (SEC). Only one problem. I am 2 hours away. But you know what…I’m going!

So, I left at 1:45 pm and tore up to Columbia (obeying speed limits…of course). After parking, and walking to the Blatt Building, I arrived 2 minutes before 4 pm. Just in time to get my name on the “I want to speak” Public Comments sheet. Can’t cut it closer than that. Here’s what happened – a summary:

There were two regulations (REGs) specifically that concerned me: 1) Doc 5204 about election equipment and 2) Doc 5224 about audits.

5204 states that “Before any product considered by an electoral board for use in conducting elections or voting registration can be purchased, it must be approved for use by the Executive Director. “The Executive Director will have SOLE DISCRETION to approve or disapprove use of the product.”

Um…at first glance that would be a “no.” Why should the authority to purchase any kind of election equipment be left to the discretion of one person, regardless of who that person might be? SEC Executive Director Howie Knapp explained that he needed to have the authority to ensure that all hardware and software in county election offices, such as printers, would be consistent and compatible. The only problem with this explanation is that the regulation is written so broadly as to allow the Executive Director to approve any and all election equipment; that it the regulation wasn’t specific in terms of the types of equipment that the Exec. Dir. Could approve. I spoke against this REG – and am happy to report that while it was approved to move out of subcommittee to be considered by the Full Committee, it was only done so on the condition that it be revised to say that such approval would involve the entire SEC Board. I see that as a win!

5224 – Confidentiality of Audit Records. This REG states that “All records and workpapers of the SEC’s audit division, except the final report, are confidential and not subject to public disclosure.”

That’s another “no.” The public has the right to be able to review the documents and data that led to the issuance of the final report. One legislator stated that in his legal opinion, this REG would run counter to our Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) laws. He moved to have the Subcommittee disapprove the regulation. This required a second, which didn’t happen. There was more discussion. Another attempt to disapprove, but no second. More discussion. I spoke about the importance of FOIA laws and used the grocery receipt analogy. It’s not good enough to see the final total without being able to see the individual items that contributed to the total.

Mr. Knapp urged its passing by saying that other governmental agencies had the right to keep data involving investigations private. Another woman in public comment stated that this could be accomplished by simply writing WITNESS 1 or WHISTLEBLOWER 2. Finally, it was decided that if there was a desire to keep such information from the public, it would have to be done statutorily and the Committee asked Mr. Knapp to withdraw his regulation, which he did. Another win!!

Even with two wins, I have concerns. The first is that there seems to be a desire to centralize the control of our state elections in the hands of unelected officials in the State Election Commission and away from the counties. It seemed as if the main concern of the legislators was to give the Executive Director more authority to reign in “rogue counties.” I tried to explain that centralization has the effect of moving the decision-making processes away from the counties and the people and that it could destroy the ability of counties to make decisions that would be appropriate for their unique counties. For example, we see counties all across the United States putting a pause on the election machines and moving to experimenting with paper ballots. A move towards centralization would preclude that ability.

Another concern was the very loose language of these regulations. While Mr. Knapp explained his motive in putting forth these regulations, he won’t be there forever. And I fear that the language is so vague and open-ended that it could be misappropriated and possibly invite abuse of the authority conveyed on the Executive Director and used for nefarious purposes. I would have liked the language to be more specific and defined, and not open to interpretation.

The meeting was over at 7 pm.

PS. For those of you who want to know more…other issues were addressed.

5192 – Definitions: one of the issues was the definition of a (poll) observer and the fact that observers would be “permitted at the discretion of the poll clerk.” Mr. Knapp explained that this is federal law – and that if a poll clerk wanted to exclude the President, he/she could. Mr. Knapp explained that this REG was needed to establish definitions. It was approved to go to Committee.

5193 – Voter rolls: this states that “The Executive Director may determine a reasonable price for voter registration lists by considering the following factors:” – and then sets up some criteria for setting the price, one of which is “recouping the costs associated with running the Sale of Lists program.” We are currently charged $2,500 for each requested list. One legislator explained that this price can be onerous for individuals who would need to request voter rolls several times in an election year. I stated that this information should be provided to the citizens of the state for free, that we pay taxes and this information belongs to us. Mr. Knapp acknowledged that some states give their voter rolls for free, some like North Carolina post the rolls on their website, and others charge much more. He stated that he collects about $100,000 from the sale of the rolls when the actual cost is closer to $1.2M. One legislator stated that he liked the regulation because it defined criteria for setting the price of voter rolls; I disagreed and stated that I saw it as an expansion of his powers by putting in the regulation that the intent of the fee was to cover expenses of maintaining voter rolls. This REG passed and will go to Committee.

5194 – Ballot Standards Document – this would provide for standardization of ballot formats. The argument made by Mr. Knapp was that this was necessary in response to election officials who insisted on putting their name on the ballot instead of the Executive Director. Actually, the effect of this regulation would be to limit the ability of individual counties to create their own ballot design, including the use of paper ballots. This REG passed and will go to committee.

5195 – Protest Hearings – sets up criteria for protest hearings in county Boards of Canvassers and Executive Committees. Approved to go to Full Committee.

5196 – Oaths – this sets forth the requirements for different types of election-related oaths. Approved and sent to Full Committee.

5197 – County Reports – this REG required that the counties report any lawsuits filed against them to the SEC within 30 days. The legislators changed that to within 24 Business hours – and approved it to go to Full Committee.

5198 – Absentee Ballot Drop boxes – “A county board of voter registration and elections may not utilize absentee ballot drop boxes for receiving or collecting completed absentee ballots.” This was approved to go to Committee.

5199 – Candidate nicknames – “The final decision on whether a candidate authorized by law to appear on a ballot in a general, special or primary election in this State for any office may use their nickname or derivative name to appear on a ballot is at the discretion of the Executive Director.” Mr. Knapp explained that this REG is necessary because we see candidates listed on ballots with names like Joe “Smokey Barbecue” Jones and we want to prevent that. I spoke and asked the Mr. Knapp if he would disallow Nikki Haley to use her name and require her to use her real birthname “Nimrata.” I said that this could be a form of election interference. Once again, this REG opens the door to future possible abuse if a future Executive Director interprets this REG differently from Mr. Knapp. Approved and sent to Committee.

5201 – requires counties to develop Emergency Procedure Plans for polling places during elections. According to Mr. Knapp, these procedures are not currently in place. This REG was approved to move to Full Committee.

5202 – Candidate withdrawals – establishes what to do in case of a candidate withdrawal. Approved to go to full committee.

5203 – Electronic petitions – this has to do with gathering petitions for nonpartisan candidates. Approved and sent to Full Committee.

5205 – Nonpartisan and Petition Candidate Information Reports – outlines the requirements for nonpartisan candidate statements. Approved and sent to Full Committee.

5225 – Storage and retention requirements for election records and equipment. Sets forth standards for storing important election data. Approved and sent to Committee.

Bill H 4935 Teamwork wins the day-they had to add overflow to another room

Many thanks to the amazing beautiful people who showed up today for the hearing on H 4935. This bill supports one day of voting on hand marked paper ballots that are hand-counted.   Although we didn’t get to speak, it was a victory.  Fifty-one people showed up for a hearing in which they knew they might not have a chance to speak and they did so last minute!!!!

They had to open up a room to accomodate the overflow of people who wanted to testify and hear testimony on H 4935 the SAVE Act

Afterward, most of us went to the offices of the committee to sign their book and let them know we were there and that we had been looking forward to testifying. 

Some of us also taped our own testimonies afterwards in the lobby.  Below are the ones I received. If you would like your voice to be heard please record a statement on Zoom and send it to scsafeelections@zohomail.com

Remember that for every one person who showed up there are thousands who care about this issue. Many wanted to go, but couldn’t join since it was last minute.

The attendance and passion shown today prove that elections ARE IMPORTANT TO THE PEOPLE and that the PEOPLE WANT TO return to PAPER.

Watch some of the statements below:

Heather from Berkeley

Becky from Spartanburg County

Leslie Beaufort County

Tim York County

Larry Spartanburg County

Denise York County

Laura Lexington County

Voters distrust our electronic election systems- How can confidence be restored?

In this presentation, SC Safe Elections’ team leader Laura Scharr discusses progress to date, the implications of (s)elections, and how we can restore trust in the election ecosystem. The gold standard for elections will maximize security, verifiability, transparency, and accessibility. You can help us make the change.

In this same presentation to the SpartanburgCan group Julie Baker discusses the many vulneraiblities of our electronic voting systems in detail and takes questions from the audience.

These are must see presentations.

Common myths regarding elections rebutted

In this video forensic accountant Laura Downing, cyber expert Julie Baker, data analyst Cryste Carrol and SC Safe Elections founder Laura Scharr discuss the false narratives that are commonly discussed and rebut these fallacies with facts and experience evaulating data across the nation.

Are are voting systems secure even though they aren’t “connecte to the internet?

How do audits of elections ensure accuracy?

Does Early voting make sense?

Is hand counting of paper ballots feasible?

We will answer these questions and more.

Here are some related blogs you may want to check out:
https://www.scsafeelections.org/updates/epic-fail-the-sc-election-commission-audit-by-the-lac/
https://www.scsafeelections.org/updates/legislative-audit-council-find-multitude-of-issues-with-their-audit-of-the-sc-election-commission/

Can you trust your elections?

Cyber security expert Julie Baker talks about the many vulnerabilites in our electronic voting system.

She steps through all the ways risk is embedded in the system.

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SC Safe Elections Team Leader Laura Scharr provides the big picture view, why these vulnerabilities need to be addressed and what you can do now to help.

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EPIC FAIL: The SC Election Commission Audit by the LAC

Call or email your legislators today and ask them to make changes that allow more accountability. The SEC wants to fix this by giving themselves more money to the tune of $11M and to hire 50 more employees to audit themselves. BTW, an audit by definition shouldn’t be done by your own organization. That is NOT accountability. Is it time for the Secretary of State–an elected position–to take more responsibility?

In this video, SC Safe Elections talks to forensic accountant Laura Downing and Cybersecurity expert Julie Baker to discuss the audit of the SC Election Commission by the Legislative Audit Council. We summarize the top findings of the report which is a must read and can be found here: https://lac.sc.gov/reports/reports-agency-a-k/sec-2024

Read the executive summary here:

How can the people of South Carolina trust their elections when they know that:
*Only 58% of the counties complied with the audit.
*$5M of election equipment is unaccounted for
*Recommendations from the audit done 10 years ago were never implemented
*Data was not being shared with ERIC nor were ERIC recommendations for list removals being followed
*Post-election hand count audits were not uniform, not done properly and were considered unusable. *Clear Ballot virtual audits also showed error rates that exceeded the allowable machine error rate.
*Most concerning, citizens were kept from observing the elections and audits as well as from obtaining valuable election records

These are just some of the lowlights…..

Action alert!

Please contact the house constituional subcommittee today regarding supporting H 4935.

Send a letter to the House Constitutional Law subcommittee members and call or email each member below to ask them to support this bill with a hearing: 

HJudConstitutionalLaws@schouse.gov

CONSTITUTIONAL LAWS SUBCOMMITTEE 

Wallace H. “Jay” Jordan, Jr., Chairman 803-734-3114

Justin T. Bamberg D 803-212-6907 

Travis A. Moore 803-212-6893

William Weston J. Newton 803-734-3120

 William W. “Will” Wheeler, III  803-212-6958

Election systems are not secure-Fact!

Breaking news! Not conspiracy, it’s facts!

The lack of security in electronic voting systems has been underscored with the revelations in the Curling vs. Raffensberger case in GA. The Gateway Pundit has been covering this story in detail and the facts are alarming. Here is the info:

Make sure to read all 3 parts:

Part 1 – BIC Pen hack and voter/pollworker/technician card hacks

Professor Halderman demonstrates by borrowing a pen from the defense attorney and using it to put the election machine in safe mode. He then proceeds to get into the system easily and can alter data.

Part 2 – Ability to cover evidence trail and Bash Bunny hack

There is also the ability to hack the system by inserting a “bash bunny” or USB flash drive into the back of the machine and take control within minutes. This could enable the tabulator to be programmed to flip votes every other, every 7th, every xth vote…..

Part 3: Full Scope of Dominion ICX Hack in Federal Court is FAR Worse than Just the BIC Pen Hack

There is a trasure trove of information that makes us question the reliability of these elctronic systems. Read on and continue to follow this case in GA.

A Bill for HAND-COUNTED HAND-MARKED PAPER BALLOTS!

After meeting with members of the Charleston legislative delegation (Matt Leber, Joe Busos, Tom Hartnett, Kathy Landing and Jordan Pace) they asked us to draft our ideal legislation or gold standard bill for election. This bill H 4935 the Secure Accurate Verifiable Elections Act (SAVE ACT) was filed last week.

This bill gets rid of all electronics.  It calls for 1 day of voting (state holiday) with paper poll books and paper ballots, eliminates early voting and absentee for 65 and over to limit mail in votes. It also establishes strong chain of custody, secure ballots measures as well as videotaping of the counting process. Please contact the house judiciary committee and ask them to schedule a hearing and to vote this out of committee.

https://www.scstatehouse.gov/CommitteeInfo/housejudiciary.php

(R)  Wm. Weston J. Newton, Chairman—Beaufort County (District 120)
(R)  Wallace H. “Jay” Jordan, Jr., 1st V.C.—- Florence County (District 63)
(D)  John Richard C. King, 2nd V.C. – York County (District 49)
(R)  William H. Bailey – Horry County (District 104)
(D)  Justin T. Bamberg – Bamberg and Orangeburg (District 90)
(D)  Beth E. Bernstein – Richland County (District 78)
(R)  Thomas C. “Case” Brittain, Jr. – Horry County, Myrtle Beach (District 107)
(R)  J. Benjamin “Ben” Connell – Kershaw County (District 52)
(R)  Jason Elliott – Greenville County (District 22)
(R)  Thomas Duval “Val” Guest, Jr. – Horry County, Myrtle Beach (District 106)
(R)  Brandon Guffey – York County, Rock Hill (District 48)
(D)  Rosalyn D. Henderson-Myers- Spartanburg (District 31)
(D)  Patricia Moore “Pat” Henegan – Chesterfield, Darlington, Marlboro (Dist. 54)
(R)  Jeffrey E. “Jeff” Johnson – Horry County (District 58)
(R)  Matthew W. “Matt” Leber —-Charleston County (District 116)
(R)  John R. McCravy, III – Greenwood & Laurens (District 13)
(R)  Cody T. Mitchell – Darlington County (District 65)
(R)  Travis A. Moore – Spartanburg (District 33)
(R)  Robby Robbins – Colleton & Dorchester (District 97)
(D)  Seth Rose – Richland County (District 72)
(R)  Carla Schuessler – Horry County, Myrtle Beach (District 61)

We are making progress!

All of your hard work resulted in us getting a hearing for the election bills filed by Rob Harris H4259, H4260 and H4261. We went to the Blatt building last Thursday and it was a crowded agenda of multiple election bills. We were still able to get our speakers to testify on 2 of the 3 above bills.

Here is a description of the bills:

H.4259 Hand Count Audit Act
https://www.scstatehouse.gov//sess125_2023-2024/prever/4259_20230405.htm

This bill calls for a hand count audit of at least 5 races within 3 precincts of each county and should include one statewide office or question; one federal office; and one countywide or less than countywide office or question

It also allows a county or county chair of a political party to call for an audit up to 22 months after an election (hand count or forensic).

H.4260 Voter Access and Transparency Act

https://www.scstatehouse.gov//sess125_2023-2024/prever/4260_20230405.htm

H 4260 eliminates early voting, calls for a return to paper poll books and gives full observation rights to every citizen to observe all phases of the election process and establishes chain of custody documentation to be recorded for all components of the election systems at all times.

It also removes the 65 and older provision for absentee voting thereby reducing the amount of mail in voting.

Most importantly, it establishes a pilot program for 2024 for at least 3 counties to cast votes on hand-marked paper ballots counted by hand. THE PEOPLE WANT PAPER!

The videos of these are below and the speakers who advocated for these bills were nothing short of excellent.  These are a must watch!!!! Special thanks to Lea and Julie for taking the time and driving to Columbia to make this happen!

Hand count Audit Act -Lea Williams Watch now!

Voter Access and Transparency Act-Julie Baker Watch now!

So far these haven’t come out of subcommittee. (The next step would be for them to go to the House Judiciary Committee). In order to track progress on thewse bills download the SC Legislature app to get alerts on the bills.